Message boards : Number crunching : I thought CUDA was more efficient
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Hi guys, it's me again with more questions. | |
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Now with GPUGRID and the use of CUDA, only one WU can run at one time with my GTX285 graphics card. Correct, CUDA runs on your GPU, you have one GPU core, thus one task. CPU load is 5%. So 95% of CPU has nothing to do when the pc is idle (when I sleep or are at work) You are idle :), your CPU feeds your GPU and has power left to other things as well. You are just not using it for the other things. . It takes around 2 hours of CPU time (give by BOINC Manager) Forget that CPU time thing, just watch the real clock. but will take also around 6 hours in real time (between start and finish). So in my opinion this is not efficient. Your GPU takes around 6 hours which is an excellent score. Another thing I noticed is that the graphics card becomes very warm. A car thermometer hanging for the outflow of the cards fan is showing 40-43 degrees Celsius. That is not warm. My cards run 70 degrees celcius with high fan rpm. They are designed to live until 100 degrees or so. 80 is considered a reasonable limit. The temperature of your card is very good. it feels very hot I cannot touch it very long. This concerns me as I am afraid for the lifetime of the card. With the current software of nVidia I cannot find its core temperature. Try downloading GPU-Z or EVGA Precision if you have an EVGA card. Google for sites that have it. So all in all can someone explain why CUDA is better to do WU’s crunching than with CPU cores? If you would do the same calculation your graphics card does in 6 hours on a CPU, it would probably take 120 hours or longer. A conservative estimate. moreover it becomes very warm in the room during summer. Open a window and run a fan, it does help. (not being sarcastic)
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ID: 10915 | Rating: 0 | rate: / Reply Quote | |
Just set your i7 to 8 tasks, should be fine ;) | |
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@Hydropower: Thanks for your answers, this helps me a lot. I have a window open and running a fan during daytime. My computers are at the attic with only one window that can open. It is in full sun light almost all day. And as you know it is quit warm in the Netherlands currently and becomes even warmer inland as the week goes by. And regarding your thoughts on efficiency: you're really comparing strawberries and oranges here. If you can eat a strawberry in 2 minutes and the other guy can eat an orange in 6 minutes, who's more efficient? If you put it like that, than I am indeed comparing different things. But I was thinking of only one WU in 6 hours with CUDA, and 6 WU’s of E@H in approx. 6 hours (It could be 8). And the GPU becomes hotter than the CPU. And in my case the CPU has a better cooling fan than the GPU. (To me an orange in 6 minutes is more efficient than one strawberry in 2 minutes, or it must be a giant one, helped grow with genetic modification.) To compare: we need application X, made to run under “normal” BOINC and then crunching the same but with “CUDA”. Right? ____________ Greetings from TJ | |
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For that application X seti@home has a cuda and CPU version of Multibeam app. | |
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I'm just curious: did you try 8 threads? Usually I can't feel a difference between running BOINC full blast and leaving some ressources free (while not overloading the amount of RAM).. that's the joy of zask priorities :) | |
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Hi ETA and others, thanks for all the answers and input. It is now CUDA for me. | |
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Currently Milkyway only runs on CPUs and unofficially on ATIs. The project is trying to make it work on NV since the beginning of the year and have been "almost there" ever since. | |
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Then I have a problem I think ETA. I have installed “throttle” from the BOINC ad-on page and that shows a GPU core temperature of 64°C and then is the card not doing else than showing a background on two screens and these Internet-pages. | |
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You can easily use GPU-Z to monitor the temperature. And current GPUs have temperature controlled fans (otherwise noone could stand the noise). Your card will likely heat up to 80 - 90°C under load (doesn't matter much how hot it is outside and which load), depending on what the manufacturer set. Generally this temperature is OK for the GPUs - in occasional games. However, the manufacturer didn't know we're going to run 24/7. So many people use RivaTuner to speed the fan up (to the level where the noise is still tolerable and then back off a bit). This way temperatures can mostly be kept in check (60 - 70°C) | |
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I looked for GPU-Z and found it at different sites, but all with a warning from McAfee. While they all mentioned that there is no virus or so, I will not download it, as my i7 is my work pc and I will absolutely have no problems or trouble with it. | |
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Message boards : Number crunching : I thought CUDA was more efficient