Message boards : Number crunching : Nvidia Driver 416.34 and above
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So I just came home to a frozen computer and after restart I found my 1080ti computing at 95C with the fan at 0%, completely off. AVOID THESE NEW DRIVERS LIKE THE PLAGUE. | |
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Speed control of the fans is done by an embedded controller, and default fan speed configuration is located in the "BIOS" of video card. | |
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The above is a warning not a "tantrum." I have had my entire windows operating system fail to boot due to this driver and was forced to completely wipe it. I can assure you it is not "some other software." After the new windows installation I used driver 399.07 with no problems and tried reinstalling 416.34, with the exact same issues. | |
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You did not even bother to indicate that the problem occurred on a computer with Win 10, famous for unstable updates. | |
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Please think of this as a warning, something that people can chose to heed or ignore, you act like I am forcing people to not install this driver. You come off as extremely rude and should really think about the difference between a suggestion and treating people like children. | |
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Is that the way(" AVOID THESE NEW DRIVERS LIKE THE PLAGUE.") you're trying to "just" warn other people? Serious? | |
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I once had a problem where my custom GPU fan curve would get set to "off completely" despite tasks running the temps up to 100*C. | |
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While I am also using MSI Afterburner, I have never had a problem with it in the past. The problem occurred directly after updating my drivers from 399.07 to 416.34, 416.81 and 416.94. All three new drivers had several issues. The 0% fan speed only occurred once, so I will call this a fluke. | |
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Have you been active in NVIDIA's GeForce User Forum, in the GeForce Driver Feedback threads? | |
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... I also disabled Fast Startup in Power Options, so my PC won't be susceptible to hibernation/resume problems.I recommend it on every system which runs from an SSD, as Fast Startup works by exiting apps during shutdown, then hibernating the "empty" OS. At the next power on it resumes the empty OS from hibernation. This method cause the monthly Windows updates to be delayed up to 30 days, it also reduces SSD lifetime (while it don't result in much faster bootup time on systems runs from an SSD). On systems which run 24/7, it is advised to turn off hibernation completely as the unneeded (hidden+system) file named hiberfil.sys takes up large disk space (equal to the 60-100% of the RAM size). You can do it by the following steps: 1. right click on start 2. click on Windows PowerShell as administrator 3. if UAC is on, you should click yes to enable PowerShell to act as administrator 4. type powercfg -h off and press <enter>5. close the PowerShell window There is no output of the command, but you can check the increase of the free disk space to verify the effect of the command. If you want a more sophisticated check, you can type dir \hiberfil.sys -ah (and press <enter>) before and after step 4. to see if this file is really gone.Turning off hibernation also turns off fast startup. | |
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type [pre]powercfg -h off I agree, turning off hibernation is always a good idea. PappaLitto, are you using an ASUS MB? I ask because there's a known issue between ASUS motherboards and monitoring programs such as HWiNFO that randomly causes the fans to go to zero. Bad, bad bug. AFAIK this issue only affects ASUS. | |
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Unfortunately the solution is not that simple. I have an ASRock mobo and I am still restricted from using any 400 series driver. | |
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PappaLitto, are you using an ASUS MB? I ask because there's a known issue between ASUS motherboards and monitoring programs such as HWiNFO that randomly causes the fans to go to zero. Bad, bad bug. AFAIK this issue only affects ASUS. Can confirm. When I got my Threadripper/ASUS combo back in 2017, I had to uninstall HWiNFO because the CPU fan kept shutting off for no apparent reason and since I sometimes wasn't around to notice, the computer would eventually end up going into a sort of sleep mode to prevent overheating. Not great. I tried a bunch of things; enforcing a constant fan speed, disabling the ASUS sensors in HWiNFO, etc., but nothing worked. So I removed HWiNFO and all was fine. I tried again a year later or so, but the exact same issue returned. Some conflict between that kind of software and the integrated monitoring systems. It's too bad, since that's a really handy program. None of my other (non-ASUS) hosts running it experience any such problem. As for the driver, I'm using 416.94 on my main Windows 10 machine and haven't encountered any issues. | |
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Did you try HWiNFO 6.00? | |
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Did you try HWiNFO 6.00? I was about to post that link but you beat me to it. In fact the CanoeBeyond post on the thread is mine. No answer yet, but it's been less than 2 days. There is indeed some attempt attempt to resolve this in v6.00, as when installing it on my ASUS (Prime X470 Pro) MB it asked if I wanted to disable certain MB sensors. No such message on any other MBs (MSI, Gigabyte, Foxconn, ASRock) and also no problem on any of them with the old version. ASUS really needs to fix this deadly bug. HWiNFO is pretty much required for CPU temp monitoring when using BoincTasks/TThrottle at this point and this bug can be triggered by ANY sensor monitoring software. In fact I quit buying ASUS years ago after running into longevity problems wth their MBs and GPUs (in fact posted about it years ago on this very forum). Thought I'd give them another chance, but now regret it. Probably will exchange this ASUS MB for an MSI unless there is a VERY quick solution. It's not clear on the HWiNFO thread whether the problem is completely fixed. If not there's no way I want to chance frying a machine due to ASUS bugs. Even if HWiNFO has solved this problem, it could also be triggered by any number of other programs. The good news is that TThrottle appears to have saved the machine when ALL the fans stopped. I discovered it a few hours later with the temps north of 75C and the CPU and 3 1060 GPUs throttled way back by TThrottle. Much thanks to Fred at eFMer, think I'll send him another contribution for his great work on BoincTasks and TThrottle. Here's a link to his great programs: https://efmer.com/ BTW, also contacted ASUS. No response. Also ridiculous trying to get access to post on their forum. I digress, wrote more than I intended... | |
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Oh yeah, BOINCTasks and TThrottle rule. I couldn't imagine BOINCing without them anymore. Unfortunately, the first time the ASUS shenanigans happened, I wasn't yet using them (and the second time a year later I was present to notice and take care of it immediately): | |
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Did you try HWiNFO 6.00? I have the same all-fans-stop-problem on ASUS PRIME X399-A. This issue usually occurs 4-10 days after the last restart of the computer. Since using a computer without the risk of overheating and subsequent damage to its components is impossible without constant human control, to solve this problem, I purchased a pair of external fan controllers Noctua NF 1. In this case, all fans are connected and powered from the controller itself, and the controllers are set to a static rotational speed(in %, all fans must be PWM controled). The motherboard is completely excluded from this scheme. The solution is not perfect, but these controllers are inexpensive and I'm not worried about their reliability. I want to believe that ASUS still listen to the owners of the problematic motherboards and release the necessary update of "BIOS" to solve this problem. | |
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Did you try HWiNFO 6.00? An update on the "all fans stopping" (including CPU fan) problem. Martin at HWiNFO answered my post in the above referenced forum, and I quote: "This problem can be solved only by ASUS with a BIOS update. See this recent discussion for more details: https://www.overclock.net/forum/21-benchmarking-software-discussion/1235672-official-hwinfo-32-64-thread-198.html#post27799512" So it seems (sadly) that v6.00 does not solve the ASUS bug. | |
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Message boards : Number crunching : Nvidia Driver 416.34 and above